Many of these fragrances are released without fanfare, so they're blink-and-you'll-miss-it fare.Yeah, releases have spun up to an inhuman frequency, and get discontinued in shorter and shorter spans, then become the next scalper fodder for the folks who missed the window but just GOTTA have the new shiny thing for their TikToks and Instagram.
It's turned into a rat race for a narrowing field of trend-obsessed sycophants, that a lot of folks who don't have the cash to play the game just ignore, by not wearing fragrance at all (beyond bath products).
What the sheer number of suggestions also shows is the lack of consensus that exists now. Perhaps it would be easier to answer this question for the previous decade, e.g. 2010-2020, and see if distance helps. You're always wrestling with the novelty of new releases when doing a thread like this. Time and distance grants perspective.
Bleu De Chanel wasn't an instant hit though. It took some time to catch on.The "mass market" that could sustain a Bleu de Chanel-style instahit doesn't exist anymore.
As far as I understand, fragheads were kinda puzzled by it, but in my recollection, it was pretty much everywhere relatively quickly.Bleu De Chanel wasn't an instant hit though. It took some time to catch on.
That came out when I was a newbie and posting here a lot. Yes, the reception here was very lukewarm. It took a couple of years before you'd see some people here embracing it. I remember the ad campaign well and it was the kind of advertising that will annoy Basenoters. I kind of think we don't like people telling us what's "really cool."As far as I understand, fragheads were kinda puzzled by it, but in my recollection, it was pretty much everywhere relatively quickly.
The ad campaign and promotion was aggressive from the start - and it stayed aggressive, doubling down on the same tactics (so you know they were working, or else there would've been a pivot).
If you were a dude shopping for a scent after it launched, it was likely you smelled it.
Basenoters aren't really the target audience for releases like Bleu de Chanel (and rightly so, since we don't have enough buying power to make something a mass-market hit).That came out when I was a newbie and posting here a lot. Yes, the reception here was very lukewarm. It took a couple of years before you'd see some people here embracing it. I remember the ad campaign well and it was the kind of advertising that will annoy Basenoters. I kind of think we don't like people telling us what's "really cool."
Le Lion de Chanel - Chanel (2020)
I've never thought of it that way, but now that you mention it... Suppose the same thing could be said for many in the Les Exclusifs.Completely forgot about this one, this would be my third pick from the period! I find it really interesting that such a labdanum-dominant fragrance can be as successful as it seems to have been nowadays. It has a very vintage feel, if I had blind-sniffed it and someone told me it was around 100 years old I may well have believed them!
I wouldn’t consider any of those “designer”, not even technically speaking. Well, maybe the Celine.If I look at all-time "Most Worn" stats here, then for me:
Tom Ford Noir EDP (2012) is in 3rd place (which just misses the date cutoff, so it doesn't count).
But a few other designer houses show up in my top 20 most-worn:
Lalique Noir Premier Or Intemporel 1888 (2015) is in 5th place
Ermenegildo Zegna Passion (2017) is in 8th place
Celine Black Tie (2019) is in 12th place
Dolce & Gabbana Velvet Incenso (2018) is in 20th place
I didn't list any of these because these are all designer "exclusives," with higher-end pricepoints. But they're all great, and they're all technically designer fragrances.
By "technical" definition, at least the one I'm familiar with, a designer scent is a scent released by a house that is primarily associated with other types of products than fragrance, such as clothing.I wouldn’t consider any of those “designer”, not even technically speaking. Well, maybe the Celine.
Don’t give them any ideas…It's kinda like the Marvel Cinematic Universe model. Use one big umbrella to dump out a bunch of products to ever-hungry consumers.
Oh yes...I'm very clear that at the level Chanel or Dior operates, our opinions are meaningless.Basenoters aren't really the target audience for releases like Bleu de Chanel (and rightly so, since we don't have enough buying power to make something a mass-market hit).
Algorithm-driven marketing has made marketing an increasingly individualized affair. Targeted ads for targeted products. You now see perfumes that are aimed not at the general public, but specific subsets of customers.
I think the Bleu/Sauvage/Aventus moment for masculines is not likely to be replaced by another clear, dominant trend. Houses don't even seem interested in the idea of major tentpoles. They want to pop up a quick brand, like Givenchy Gentleman or Gucci Guilty, and use that to market a steady stream of new content.
It's kinda like the Marvel Cinematic Universe model. Use one big umbrella to dump out a bunch of products to ever-hungry consumers.
Yes, that definition in many of our heads about "niche" and "designer" is kind of amorphous.By "technical" definition, at least the one I'm familiar with, a designer scent is a scent released by a house that is primarily associated with other types of products than fragrance, such as clothing.
In this model, fragrances are an accessory for designer houses that expand their brand cachet and make the brand more accessible. Designers typically license out their fragrances because it's not their core business.
I think that's true of everything I listed. Still, I agree this definition doesn't help us navigate the very clear market delineation between things like Chanel's Bleu and Le Lion.